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	<title>Comments on: Roeder on Souness: Character Assassination By Default?</title>
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		<title>By: Neil Jackson</title>
		<link>http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2006/03/02/roeder-on-souness-character-assassination-by-default/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the resignation of Keegan from the England manager's post, the FA realised the time had come to forget about "Braveheart" style talisman figures and try to employ someone who actually had correct credentials for an important job. Crucially, they realised a crowd-pleasing appointment would be irresponsible. In my opinion, they got it right with Eriksson. Newcastle need to be very methodical, interview some good candidates, and use proper criteria in deciding who gets the job. I worry that we'll appoint Martin O'Neill in the blithe assumption that success will automatically follow. His appointment would be a classic crowd-pleasing tactic. But what will it say on his CV? Wycombe, Leicester and Celtic? And what about European experience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the resignation of Keegan from the England manager&#8217;s post, the FA realised the time had come to forget about &#8220;Braveheart&#8221; style talisman figures and try to employ someone who actually had correct credentials for an important job. Crucially, they realised a crowd-pleasing appointment would be irresponsible. In my opinion, they got it right with Eriksson. Newcastle need to be very methodical, interview some good candidates, and use proper criteria in deciding who gets the job. I worry that we&#8217;ll appoint Martin O&#8217;Neill in the blithe assumption that success will automatically follow. His appointment would be a classic crowd-pleasing tactic. But what will it say on his CV? Wycombe, Leicester and Celtic? And what about European experience?</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to G Sutton, I totally agree. We need a manager who wants to take us up a level, rather than see's the Newcastle job as one which will enable him to step up a level personally. Oneill has achieved nothing more than souness. Fat Sam is so long of himself its a joke. Steve Bruce is a muppett. we need an astute tactician of the highest calibre. I don't want ranieri but he is a better candidate than any of the previosuly mentioned. Hitzveld or someone similar would appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to G Sutton, I totally agree. We need a manager who wants to take us up a level, rather than see&#8217;s the Newcastle job as one which will enable him to step up a level personally. Oneill has achieved nothing more than souness. Fat Sam is so long of himself its a joke. Steve Bruce is a muppett. we need an astute tactician of the highest calibre. I don&#8217;t want ranieri but he is a better candidate than any of the previosuly mentioned. Hitzveld or someone similar would appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Goonbag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goonbag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddy McKenzie - what a ****.  End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy McKenzie - what a ****.  End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2006/03/02/roeder-on-souness-character-assassination-by-default/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddy McKenzie - please don't subject us to any more of your utterly brainless drivel. I don't think I've ever read a more spiteful and ill-informed load of garbage in my life. 

You say look at how results have gone since Shearer took on his quasi-managers job and that shows how bad things must have been from him in the dressing room- he's still in the dressing room you ignoramous! And if anything he has even more of a say now!  

Your claims about his wages are complete crap - Shearer doesn't earn 100,000 per week, never has - your figure of him earning 52,000,000 off us is laughable. I would say he's earned perhaps a quarter of that.

Jackie Milburn has 200 goals for Newcastle. No more, no less. Goals in the wartime friendlies do not count and never have, just as the many goals Shearer has scored for us in friendly matches do not count. This has never been a matter for dispute, just an accepted fact until now we are suddenly supposed to change the rules to fit your views!

I just don't understand where people like you come from. Why do you hate him so much? After all he's done for us, all the goals and magic moments! No we haven't won anything but if you honestly believe that we WOULD have won something WITHOUT Shearer then you, my friend, are living in cloud cuckoo land. Over the years Alan Shearer has done everything in his power to help us become a successful team - the fact that we haven't and the problems we've had are nothing to do with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy McKenzie - please don&#8217;t subject us to any more of your utterly brainless drivel. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever read a more spiteful and ill-informed load of garbage in my life. </p>
<p>You say look at how results have gone since Shearer took on his quasi-managers job and that shows how bad things must have been from him in the dressing room- he&#8217;s still in the dressing room you ignoramous! And if anything he has even more of a say now!  </p>
<p>Your claims about his wages are complete crap - Shearer doesn&#8217;t earn 100,000 per week, never has - your figure of him earning 52,000,000 off us is laughable. I would say he&#8217;s earned perhaps a quarter of that.</p>
<p>Jackie Milburn has 200 goals for Newcastle. No more, no less. Goals in the wartime friendlies do not count and never have, just as the many goals Shearer has scored for us in friendly matches do not count. This has never been a matter for dispute, just an accepted fact until now we are suddenly supposed to change the rules to fit your views!</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand where people like you come from. Why do you hate him so much? After all he&#8217;s done for us, all the goals and magic moments! No we haven&#8217;t won anything but if you honestly believe that we WOULD have won something WITHOUT Shearer then you, my friend, are living in cloud cuckoo land. Over the years Alan Shearer has done everything in his power to help us become a successful team - the fact that we haven&#8217;t and the problems we&#8217;ve had are nothing to do with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Smith</title>
		<link>http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2006/03/02/roeder-on-souness-character-assassination-by-default/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed Roeder seemed to having a dig at Souness too.

Dyer was quoted on Souness's motivational technique:  "I can look in the mirror and know I gave my all as a player. Can you do that?"

A day or so after that was reported, we have Roeder, after the draw with Charlton:  "You can't complain. There was not one player who could go home and look in the mirror and say he did not do his best."

I get the impression that as a fellow (sometime) but more thoughtful manager and as an ex-toon player and toon employee,  Roeder was getting hacked off with Souness' attitude towards players and building team spirit. I think it must have been difficult to stand by and watch.

Let him let off steam. I think it helps the players feel better if he articulates what was going wrong before by emphasising the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed Roeder seemed to having a dig at Souness too.</p>
<p>Dyer was quoted on Souness&#8217;s motivational technique:  &#8220;I can look in the mirror and know I gave my all as a player. Can you do that?&#8221;</p>
<p>A day or so after that was reported, we have Roeder, after the draw with Charlton:  &#8220;You can&#8217;t complain. There was not one player who could go home and look in the mirror and say he did not do his best.&#8221;</p>
<p>I get the impression that as a fellow (sometime) but more thoughtful manager and as an ex-toon player and toon employee,  Roeder was getting hacked off with Souness&#8217; attitude towards players and building team spirit. I think it must have been difficult to stand by and watch.</p>
<p>Let him let off steam. I think it helps the players feel better if he articulates what was going wrong before by emphasising the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Billham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Billham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Eddy Mckenzie from Sunderalnd??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Eddy Mckenzie from Sunderalnd??</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Beckinsaw</title>
		<link>http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2006/03/02/roeder-on-souness-character-assassination-by-default/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Beckinsaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness, did Sir Alan used to bully you at school or something. The man is selfish (like any decent player), and single minded. He only wants success for Newcastle United and himself. Big deal.
I know, let's get more players like paul kitson - nice guy / average player. Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, did Sir Alan used to bully you at school or something. The man is selfish (like any decent player), and single minded. He only wants success for Newcastle United and himself. Big deal.<br />
I know, let&#8217;s get more players like paul kitson - nice guy / average player. Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Radford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Radford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Mckenzie, 
Are you drunk sir?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Mckenzie,<br />
Are you drunk sir?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2006/03/02/roeder-on-souness-character-assassination-by-default/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, turns out Eddie Mckenzie is an ill informed t*****. Don't bag on Shearer, let's take away all his goals - I wonder where we would be then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, turns out Eddie Mckenzie is an ill informed t*****. Don&#8217;t bag on Shearer, let&#8217;s take away all his goals - I wonder where we would be then.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy McKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be Roeder is doing the assasination without realising it. But I think the reason is more global than tunnel. First we have the worst Chairman in the Premier League. You could get no worse. No self respecting Manager would work with or for the man. Bobby or Keegan have not got much good to say for him. Ken Dalglish was given over a million pounds when he was dirked to keep quiet and not write a book. Bobby was offered the same, but Bobby went ahead and published Farewell but not Goodbye. It tells us a lot about Shepherd and his one man Board.

It is also noted no  mention of Shearer, yet he has been pointed out time in time out as a stirrer in the dressing room.  Shepherd was scared of him and his influence, Bobby makes this clear. Shepherd wanted to sell him to the KOP for 3M, but he was scared of the backlash. He told Bobby this.

We have had a lot of trouble since we got Shearer and he will have to face the music one day. Think, the matches we have won since he took on his quasi-managers job! That then tells us something. Wha was going on in the dressing room. What was the problems we never heard. Bellamy is a classic and should never have been sold. But then Bellamy was a threat, yes a threat to the sheer selfishness of Shearer.

Shearer had one ambition, and that was to take 'Wor Jackies' mantle, to become the Tyneside hero. He did not understand this could never be done. There are in fact two records, one is League and the other goals scored in a Black and White shirt. Jackie Milburn has 239, plus 3 FA Cup Medals, Shearer is not even in the running. Having said this, we look at Kenny Dalglish at the KOP, player/manager. To this day still a hero. Does Shearer also covet this? He simply cannot do it.

The quiet man, suddenly tells the world and all who will listen he is going to donate his 1M pounds from his testimonial to charity. Big deal. So what is here, a knighthood for the buying. But stop and think, is he really giving any money away? He is on 100,000 p.w 5.200.000 pa. So in 10 years he has copped about 52,000,000 pounds from the Magpies, plus other monies! 1M is simply nothing to this self glorifyier. Jackie had to wait 10 years for a testimonial, and we will find according to Charlie Crowe Jackie gave a lot to the Jackie Milburn Memorial Trust Fund For disadvataged North East Children. 

We will leave Jackie and come to Shearer. He really wants something more than money, because he is simply a multi-millionaire! So then at that stage he is  looking for honours, most men do with that sort of money.

Glenn is small trouble compared with Shearer. If we could get rid of Shearer and the Shepherd family tomorrow, we would be League Champions next season, because it will have to happen and the Halls will have to go also. Someone is in the wings and wants the Club, but the Shepherds again are making too much money out of it. Barcaly Knapp will perhaps be that man, then and only then will we get a Real Manager and a a bloke fit to wear the No.9 shirt.

In the article its self we have seen startling figures since Souey went and this must indicate something. Was the real problem at St.James' Park, Shearer,and the fans could not see the forest for the trees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be Roeder is doing the assasination without realising it. But I think the reason is more global than tunnel. First we have the worst Chairman in the Premier League. You could get no worse. No self respecting Manager would work with or for the man. Bobby or Keegan have not got much good to say for him. Ken Dalglish was given over a million pounds when he was dirked to keep quiet and not write a book. Bobby was offered the same, but Bobby went ahead and published Farewell but not Goodbye. It tells us a lot about Shepherd and his one man Board.</p>
<p>It is also noted no  mention of Shearer, yet he has been pointed out time in time out as a stirrer in the dressing room.  Shepherd was scared of him and his influence, Bobby makes this clear. Shepherd wanted to sell him to the KOP for 3M, but he was scared of the backlash. He told Bobby this.</p>
<p>We have had a lot of trouble since we got Shearer and he will have to face the music one day. Think, the matches we have won since he took on his quasi-managers job! That then tells us something. Wha was going on in the dressing room. What was the problems we never heard. Bellamy is a classic and should never have been sold. But then Bellamy was a threat, yes a threat to the sheer selfishness of Shearer.</p>
<p>Shearer had one ambition, and that was to take &#8216;Wor Jackies&#8217; mantle, to become the Tyneside hero. He did not understand this could never be done. There are in fact two records, one is League and the other goals scored in a Black and White shirt. Jackie Milburn has 239, plus 3 FA Cup Medals, Shearer is not even in the running. Having said this, we look at Kenny Dalglish at the KOP, player/manager. To this day still a hero. Does Shearer also covet this? He simply cannot do it.</p>
<p>The quiet man, suddenly tells the world and all who will listen he is going to donate his 1M pounds from his testimonial to charity. Big deal. So what is here, a knighthood for the buying. But stop and think, is he really giving any money away? He is on 100,000 p.w 5.200.000 pa. So in 10 years he has copped about 52,000,000 pounds from the Magpies, plus other monies! 1M is simply nothing to this self glorifyier. Jackie had to wait 10 years for a testimonial, and we will find according to Charlie Crowe Jackie gave a lot to the Jackie Milburn Memorial Trust Fund For disadvataged North East Children. </p>
<p>We will leave Jackie and come to Shearer. He really wants something more than money, because he is simply a multi-millionaire! So then at that stage he is  looking for honours, most men do with that sort of money.</p>
<p>Glenn is small trouble compared with Shearer. If we could get rid of Shearer and the Shepherd family tomorrow, we would be League Champions next season, because it will have to happen and the Halls will have to go also. Someone is in the wings and wants the Club, but the Shepherds again are making too much money out of it. Barcaly Knapp will perhaps be that man, then and only then will we get a Real Manager and a a bloke fit to wear the No.9 shirt.</p>
<p>In the article its self we have seen startling figures since Souey went and this must indicate something. Was the real problem at St.James&#8217; Park, Shearer,and the fans could not see the forest for the trees?</p>
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